Category: Cell Phone Talk
Hi:
I know that Voice Over is available on IPhone 3 4 and 4s. Does Siri offer speech output, or does it only use voice command features. I really would like an Iphone 5 but with actual speech. I'd rather have a phone that I wouldn't constantly have to use voice activation. I'd like a newer model, but will go with a model or two back for speech output. Are there any Android phones with built-in speech on Verizon?
Good evening. What exactly do you mean by speech output? When voiceover is turned off Siri will still speak using the iPhone voice. When voiceover is on the same thing happens although I believe sometimes voiceover does read what Siri is displaying on the device. The iPhone 5 gives Siri more capabillities but you don't have to use them. Example, I do not enjoy voice activated things so don't use Siri. However, for some of my client's who have difficulty with there hands Siri is a major draw. Have a great day.
Siri is just a hands free way to do thing, but it is a feature that you never have to use to operate the iPhone 4S. That is the only phone currently that has it. I personally like Siri in some situations, and with IO 6 it will improve. You don't have to have the iPhone 5 to get IO 6.
Androids do not have Siri it is a feature only Apple offers.
Firstly, SIRI is not the speech software that Apple uses. The speech software that comes with the phone itself is call Voiceover. Its free, its easy, and simple to use, ones you get over the fear of using a touch screen phone.
secondly, Siri operates like a voice control. you no need to use it in order to do anything. But as far as i know, no one who has an iphone4s against using SIRI. this is not only from the blind community, but also from the majority Iphone4s users.
thirdly, SIRI won't works unless you got an active internet connection available.
fourthly, all iphone3gs and above, which is iphone3gs, iphone4, iphone4s, and soon iphone5 have the ability of voiceover.
Last but not least, only iphone4s and soon, iphhone5 and ipad3 have the ability of siri.
finally, Androy works on a completely different system. They have something like SIRI, which they call it IRIS, but i haven't heard any fitback from Androy users as to it's usability. as we speak, Androy also have a very limited build in accessibility features compare to what Apple IOS does. Almost 95% of the accessibility on an androy phone is driven by different third party apps.
Fourthly, android has more apps that come close to serie, voice actions, soon an app I posted on my apps for android board. Second, Gingerbread, and Ice-Cream sandwidge both have just as much accessibility as an Iphone. Ice-Cream Sandwige has the most accessibility for android because of the explore by touch. So now that is cleared up, android and IOS are both perfect platforms for a blind user. The only thing you have over us android users is word processing which is coming soon to an android near you. To be fare, we now can use flash to streem videos through "firefox, nightly builds" Well take care and have fun with what ever platform yu so choose to use.
Siri is a digital assistant, like have a personal assistant without the emotional meltdowns, stress and opinions.
I just updated my phone using Siri told it to put a reminder on Thursday nights for me to take out the garbage. See, for years women have yelled at us saying we were inconsiderate or not caring about things when we would forget. I'm not more enlightened now, still absentminded, only I have a digital assistant to keep me up to date, whose feelings won't get hurt.
All kidding aside, I didn't have a phobia of the touch screen, but I will I am sort of gun-shy about the dictation thing, thinking it will get it wrong, or I will do it wrong. I can see it will take practice, and be useful. But yes it runs in conjunction with VoiceOver, if you have VoiceOver turned on.
Well Starfly, it is also fair to say that Androy doesn't have a standard platform for accessibility, no? When you look on it, Androy is pretty much driven from apps to apps, in terms of how accessible the device is. Yes, Icecream is much accessible than gingerbread, however, it is still, not enough to suggest that both platform are as good as each other when come to accessibility. Yes, you may argue that iphone apps are pretty much driven by the effert the developer put in to make the apps accessible, but fair to say, over 1 in 5 iphone apps are fully accessible. You can say i'm bias towards IPhone, but i have reasons to do so.
I looking in to the details of icecream 4.0 as i'm considering to get the new samsung galaxy S3. I do alot of research towards the phone itself, even have the hold of my friend's phone for a few days. but i must say, the level of accessibility is rather, disappointing. Although, i'm quite sure give it another year or two, accessibility Androy will catch up with the voiceover. If accessibility is not a concern, no doubt, i would have upgreat to Galaxy s3. But so far, it doesn't impress me from the accessibility front.
Also Android is difficult to locate support on for the accessibility. This is what made me choose iPhone. Not only does Apple provide a PBX or HTML manual, you can call your Apple store, or go in and get help as offten and as long as required.
Last directly out of the box and with the manual I didn't have to ask anyone to help me set the phone up, I couldn't do this with Android.
I'd love to try one however, but doing so and being stuck in a contract and not liking it just wasn't interesting to me.
I have the iPhone 4s, and I absolutely love siri. You can tell siri to schedule appointments, set reminders, make calls, send text messages, eemails, and so on. It can make things so much faster. As for the touch screen, I was a bit nervous about it at first, but once I learned the layout of the screen I was comfortable with it.
How long did any of you spend with a android phone, at this time, I am having to peace back what I had on my last phone, out side of getting help with installing the screenreader, the rest I am doing on my own. As for IOS and Android both are driven by apps.
I will stil say android is as accessible as IOS. Well take care, have fun with what ever platform you use on a dayly bases. If your looking for me, you will find me over in android land with an app called voice actions. :)
Choice is a beautiful thing and what works for some may not work for others. The fact that there are many using androide makes it a viable accessable platform for those who choose to adopt it. Perhaps the difference is there may be features in one that aren't important to those who embrace the other. There may be ways of doing things on one that are easier on the other. So, let's keep these wonderful discussions going noting that people need different things and perhaps androide offers some things that iOs does not and the reverse as well. I personally embrace iOs and recommend it to people and in my use of Androide find it cumbersome and not as efficient. However, does that mean I won't recommend it to people? certainly not. Before making any recommendations I research the features and apps a person needs, the accessibility they need along with what they can afford. Hey look, Windows phone 8 is coming out and we'll have a new platform to discuss regarding accessibility. There's room for everyone.It's all good and a wonderful time to explore
WillieTheWoof
I could not have said it better myself, both IOS and Android are great platforms for the Visually impaired community. This comes from someone who has used both on a dayly bases. My last encounter with IOS was IOS 5.0.
I've had an Iphone before, and was just getting used to it when I accidentally lost it. I'd only had it for a month. Either way, I'll have to pay the extra $30 for data since I'm with Verizon. But I'd have to do that regardless of which platform, Ios or Android I used. Sorry, by voice activation, I basically meant Siri, not the capabilities of VoiceOver. I'm not sure I'd use Siri constantly, but it might be fun to play around with. Thinking at this point I'll stick with Iphone. I went out of town last weekend, and really missed the internet connectivity.
Okay, but my problem with Android is not that it doesn't work well, it is the support structor setup for it. Calling A T and T gives you a bit of information, but I wanted total information. Where is your Manual on how to control the accessibility programs? I offten times hear Android users say how good it is, but when I ask that question, and how to get support for it I don't receive the answers gback.
Now if I had time, and extra money I wish to spend to learn it I am possitive I could see the benefits of it, but when I only have one cell phone, and I need that phone to work reasonably well right away, due to traveling and such things I do, well I just don't have time to fool around. Okay, so than I get liking what I'm using so I lose interest in learning Android accessibility.
I hear pros and cons, but if I could lay hands on some support, that make me interested.
if you think i'm someone who don't do research and falling in to crap, then, i'm afraid you are awfully wrong. i do every piece of research that i can, from every bits of information that i can find out. As i said before, the platform itself is great, but it is not up to the standard as IOS when come to "accessibility".
Yes, you can do things on both devices for sure, just that, do you spend 1minute doing it or spend 5minutes doing it thats another question. Yes, you have accessibility features, thats great, but how usable it is, and how supported it is thats also another question all together.
I have sighted professional mobility instructors and friends who uses androy devices themselves, and i ask them all the same question. How accessible it is, how a blind person can use it, and guess what? the love that thing, but with their honest heart, they told me, they won't reckon it works as well as IOS when come to accessibility features.
As i mention earlier, i love the GalaxyS3, from the look to the capability. But what puts me off is it's accessibility features. I'm not one who goes with mainstreem, people who knows me will know that i'm quite a rebel, but i'm not prepare to spend $500 to $1000 to a device that will give me pain and frustration. However, if i have the extra money to spend, sure, why not? i won't hasitate to get it, to try it, and fall in love with it. By saying that, i will, revisit it when Jellybean is available widely, and when there's firm evidents showing me that it is, indeed accessible, not only from some bias users, but from some real evidents.
actually a couple of things to note. I have used both and will upgrade to ICS JB or even KLP (keylime pie) which ever is available and it comes down to strictly personal preference. The truth, both OS's speech is third party driven, voiceover does work with more of the native apps than does the speech on Android but it is pretty close. as far as the manual, pretty difficult to do since there are three different screen readers for Android. TalkBack, the one built in to ICS and optional on earlier versions, Spiel, and mobile Accessibility. You really need to go to the developer of the screen reader to learn how to use it. That's like saying that because apple has a manual for the mac that you shouldn't consider windows because you don't have one stop shopping. I have recommended the iPhone for certain people and others I have recommended Android. There are those who choose one when they would benefit more from the other and it is my task to help them overcome. Maybe it is I like the layout of android better, but for me it is more intuitive and logical. What it comes down to, is need and ability. There are android users who would have a devil of a time with IOS and iOS users who would have a difficult time with Android. One major problem that does plague Android devices is fragmentation, This is partially addressed in ICS and will improve over time.
I am like butter cup. I am a geek, so learning Android isn't the issue.
You have said go to the screen reader developer, okay who are they, where are they found? Who makes the better most accessible version? We are talking a device that for me needs to work, and work well. If I have time and some spare cash I want to play with, than buying one to fool with is okay, but when picking a device that needs to do as advertised I need it to go. If not I can save lots of money and just buy a basic phone and settle for making calls and receiveing them easy. Even my LG phone and others in the past have provided easy to locate manuals. I could even get them brailled, so you see I'm use to that not fooling around. I'm out on a bus, or someplace and I need email, and the phone can get it, I want it, or I want to know I can't relie on it. The iPhone soon as I got it setup it provided exactly my needs, and when I want to learn how I read the manual and can learn in minutes.
to answer your question here is some advice httP://www.androidaccess.net This web page has many links to get you started and its Hosted by J J Medof
Also I do not just go with the croud, if so I would have got a Iphone 3GS and staid with IOS until T-mobile got the Iphone which I am think could bee soon. :) choice is good!. Lastly you have a few of us android user who would love to help any one who is willing to give an android a try as there main device or second device just ask me or other as well. You can join the eyes-free list from google groups, there is your largest support group and help.
Honestly? If you need the device to just work, like if you are a parent, or a first responder, or in business, get an iPhone.
If you want to add a ton of options, including plugging it into God only knows what where and when? Get an Android, a Raspberry Pi, a Chrome OS, they are all sort of similar. But they are not computing appliances. Neither is a jailbroken iPhone most of the time, either, which is one reason many of us will not jailbreak.
Actually I'll jailbreak my iPod, since my data is now on my iPhone.
And I can't decide as to a tablet for experimental reasons which: would it be Chrome OS or Android. But when people depend on you to get the job done and now, I'm opting for a solution that lets me do that. Still on Android it seems you have a lot of options, and needs, for multiple installs of home screens / shells and other accessories to make it work. And the ones that come with T-Mobile don't have the accessibility built in. I talked to them on the phone about this.
What makes today's iPhone and yesterday's Blackberry a always-ready device, is ironically the same thing that makes that same device criticized as a "one-size-fits-all" device. In part true, in part not, but that isn't the issue.
The same thing that provides flexibility in Android is also the same thing that will give you headaches when you are trying to set it up, or need to switch home screens or keyboards to just do a task, or decide what browser will open links from what email client.
I'd still say, if you are interested in modding it, fitting that device into some other architecture like ROS (robotic operating system) or the ConnectKit camera / sensors, Android and / or Chrome OS are really your bet. My daughter does use it for a phone, but very minimally compared to the real hardcore Android geeks out there, and her phone doesn't have any accessibility anything in it.
They do update Android over the air also just as they do iOS, and since she hasn't rooted her phone, her SMS app freezing has been fixed, in a teenager's words, 'just went away'.
Blackberry, and now the iPhone, are popular for devices where the end game is to get the job done, for a reason.
Android and Chrome OS are always going to be available for the most experimental, or the people who want to mod their device, or people who can run with the HTC or Samsung interfaces (not us blind people) without rooting / jailbreaking / otherwise changing how the device works.
As of the HTC one S your asumtion of no accessible feature built in is flat out wrong LeoGuardian, it comes with talkback already installed. As for other t-mobile phones I will give you that, no accessibility built in so far. However, where I live, in raleigh NC, they will help you have the phone up and talking before you leave the store. As for changing home screans, that is manufacture based when it comes to ICS "Icecream sandwige". If any of you want, I will go to t-mobile's store here in Raleigh NC and see if the samsung galaxy III comes with talkback pre-installed.
I will check out the page. Thank you.
I again am like Leo. I needed my replacement phone to work, and I needed a manual I could lay hands on withen a reasonable length of time, so when I leave my house my cellphone works. I don't want to be out at 2 A.M, and I am sometimes, need a cab, and trying to figure out how that app works. I need to know.
All my ohter handset, even ones that weren't vary accessible came with a manual I could read and get hands on quickly. I didn't have to learn how to learn how to use the phone if that makes since. .
I'd buy an Android, just because I'm a person that loves keys on my device. I didn't think I'd like the iPhone, and sometimes even now wish for keys, but I really like it. I want to cook it breakfast in the morning. Lol
I just learned from the eyes-free list, that Samsung galaxy sIIII does come with Google TTS and talkback already installed. Any way lets get this post back to serie, we can argue on the Iphone verses android chat board later.
sorry to bring the topic away from serie but here is another place to ask questions about android, I garentee your going to get an answer. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/eyes-free
I read an interesting article on a comparing of the Samsung galaxy sIIII and the upcoming iPhone 5. It is on Cnet, and both phones seems to be tops. The article suggested if you aren't in a hurry to upgrad wait a few months and see what both phones can or can't do for you.
I read an interesting article on a comparing of the Samsung galaxy sIIII and the upcoming iPhone 5. It is on Cnet, and both phones seems to be tops. The article suggested if you aren't in a hurry to upgrad wait a few months and see what both phones can or can't do for you.
I read an interesting article on a comparing of the Samsung galaxy sIIII and the upcoming iPhone 5. It is on Cnet, and both phones seems to be tops. The article suggested if you aren't in a hurry to upgrad wait a few months and see what both phones can or can't do for you.
I read an interesting article on a comparing of the Samsung galaxy sIIII and the upcoming iPhone 5. It is on Cnet, and both phones seems to be tops. The article suggested if you aren't in a hurry to upgrad wait a few months and see what both phones can or can't do for you.
I read an interesting article on a comparing of the Samsung galaxy sIIII and the upcoming iPhone 5. It is on Cnet, and both phones seems to be tops. The article suggested if you aren't in a hurry to upgrad wait a few months and see what both phones can or can't do for you.
I read an interesting article on a comparing of the Samsung galaxy sIIII and the upcoming iPhone 5. It is on Cnet, and both phones seems to be tops. The article suggested if you aren't in a hurry to upgrad wait a few months and see what both phones can or can't do for you.
iPhone 5 versus Samsung Galaxy S3: Wait or buy now?
You're hearing great things about the Samsung Galaxy S III (S3), but can it stand up to fall's iPhone 5? We'll help you suss it out.
That is the article. Can't say about accessibility, but both phones seem comparable.
I see the post didn't have a working link sorry.
That phone was released here Saturday, so here it the link.
http://reviews.cnet.com/1770-5_7-0.html?query=iPhone+5+versus+Samsung+Galaxy
Just a comment for the person that said they were afraid of a touch screen. There are blue tooth keyboard cases you can buy for your iphone. These can work with siri and voiceover. I am fullly capable of using a touch screen, but for me the keyboard case just makes me a faster texter. I love mine. Check them out.